black atheists

You Can’t Be a ‘Good Christian’ and a Republican

Republicans somehow believe their political affiliation and Christianity intersect, meaning they believe that they’re good Christians and that the two aren’t mutually exclusive. That’s a common misconception. Then there are Christians who protest that they voted Republican based on their religious grounds. They cannot call themselves a Christian, let alone a “good” one and also be a Republican because everything that the Republican party stands for goes against a lot of what’s in the Bible.

But let’s talk about the Republicans that have all but erased the separation of church and state, or at least trying to. They talk about doing God’s work through voting against their best interest, which is a growing problem with the religious in the United States. Too many of them vote based on their hatred, their ignorance, and their religion. They use their misguided, uninformed, disgusting idea of what Christianity is to tell them what they should vote for. One of the main ones is abortion. They praise Trump and call him their savior. Republicans boast about how Trump is doing a great job, and that he is a good Christian. First of all, none of that is true and if they think Trump is a Christian, I can’t imagine what else they believe. Then again, they do believe a man named Jesus died for them for all of 3 days and then floated away to be with himself in heaven. Secondly, before anyone else says it, Christian Republican’s hypocrisy came long before Trump.

Republicans team themselves up with Christians so they can tap into their hate for gays, people of color, poor people (even if and when they’re poor themselves), the disabled, the LGBT and other social issues. They use the bible to lean on and justify their hated based on “religious morals”. The hypocrisy is dumbfounding, their contradictoriness is lost on them and that in itself is jarring. Do they not realize that they’re betraying their own religious morals? There’s an overwhelming majority of Christians that says their faith is one of love and compassion, but that doesn’t seem like it’s true at all. I don’t think it ever has been. The Republicans want to get rid of what they call “entitlement programs” such as food stamps and welfare. They want to get rid of funding for veterans. They want to get rid of healthcare – the little that we do have. All the while, the bible states to love and help your fellow man. Here’s my beef:

In the bible, it states: “Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me” -Mark 10:21, but here they are, voting away what little help, what little dignity most people have left. “You gone raise my taxes for who now? Them poor folk? Oh, hell no!” It seems to me that the root of their belief system is a deep-seated fear, anxiety, and culture shock that they are losing what that they think they are entitled to. The Bible also states that those who practice hypocrisy really aren’t Christians at all. So there’s that.

As an atheist, I see all religions as a scapegoat that are only used to excuse the religious from living in reality. I think the obvious and yet ignored disconnect is when someone religious uses their religion to hate who they want, to demonize, abuse, and disown, and to exaggerate their own moral superiority, when the religion they claim to a have a clear understanding of told them to look to their own sins instead of trying to find it in others.

Black Atheists That Have a Problem with Homosexuality, What the Fuck is Your Problem?

Black atheists, what is your problem with homosexuals? How is it that you can remove the shackles of religion, but cannot remove the veil of ignorance? You’re an atheist but you’re a bigoted atheist? You’re okay with atheists as long as they’re not gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc? I understand completely that atheism is nothing more than the denouncing of gods, but it’s important for me to ask, why not go a step further?

I made a post yesterday wishing all my queer members a happy pride day and of course those who didn’t agree had to say they’re unfollowing and that “Atheists subscribe to nature, science, logic. (since when?) This pride stuff isn’t natural or logical.”(homosexuality is found all over the animal kingdom, but that’s another blog post) and proceeded to block me. Those that didn’t leave like they said they were, stuck around for their five minutes of fame until they were blocked. It’s like this every year so sure, I’m expecting it, but it just shows how far we as a black community have to go and to grow. Some of us may have removed religion from our lives, but still, have religious-like beliefs stunting our growth.

As we all know, the black community is pretty homophobic, but let me point something out that one of the “atheists” said:

real black atheists don’t support homosexual in no forns. Fuck that white shit

I should not give this person the time of day just based on their grammar alone, but I must bring this up, seeing as this isn’t just one bad apple. He’s on a tree with a fuckton of other bad apples. I’m seeing parallels between people like him and religious people. If it can’t be explained, god did it. If black people are doing it, but it’s disapproving to other black people, it’s “white people shit”. Skateboarding, atheism, veganism, not spanking your children, being LGBTQ+, etc. is “white people shit”.  It’s as if the realm of possibilities for certain social constructs, ways of life, and the like are limited to their small, simple minds. The list seems to grow incessantly and recklessly. It’s like [they] have their own special list of detestable things that only “white people be or do” and black people shouldn’t be or do. You know what? Soon, someone is going to walk up to me and snatch my black card away and tell me I’m no longer invited to the ‘cookout’.

This does confirm that religion cannot be blamed for this person’s hatred of LGBTQ+ (wait, he said that he’s okay with lesbians, which also makes him a contradictory, hypocritical misogynist). For him and atheists like him (men make up most of the black atheist community), it’s simply ignorance and hate.

But to note, homophobia is a European concept. The buggery laws that were passed in 1533 made homosexuality a crime and of course, those laws, like a disease spread to other countries, especially those they colonized. The Buggery laws are still active for many countries, the West Indies, South America and, North & West Africa just to name a few. This also confirms that not a lot of people educate themselves and just go along with their own misguided beliefs. It’s sad because we as a people can do better.

I think it would be in the best interest of the black community to be more informed than this, more open-minded than this, more educated than this. It saddens me to see that no matter what god or lack thereof, there is always going to be that crab in the bucket mentality.

We still have a long way to go.

 

Citations

Hist. of Homosexuality;
Buggery Law;

How Religion is Used As Emotional Blackmail/GUEST AUTHOR

by Raven Burnes

                       The hymn ended and the preacher launched into a highly emotional and symbolic sermon, recounting how our mothers had given birth to us, how they had nursed us from infancy, how they had tended us when we were sick, how they had seen us grow up, how they had watched over us, how they had always known what was best for us. He then called for yet another hymn, which was hummed. He chanted above it in a melancholy tone:

                        “Now, I’m asking the first mother who really loves her son to bring him to me for baptism!”

                        Goddam, I thought. It had happened quicker than I had expected. My mother was looking steadily at me.

                        “Come, son, let your old mother take you to God,” she begged. “I brought you into the world, now let me help to save you.”

                        She caught my hand and I held back.

                        “I’ve been as good a mother as I could,” she whispered through her tears.

                        “God is hearing every word,” the preacher underscored her plea.

                        This business of saving souls had no ethics; every human relationship was shamelessly exploited. In essence, the tribe was asking us whether we shared its feelings; if we refused to join the church, it was equivalent to saying no, to placing ourselves in the position of moral monsters. One mother led her beaten and frightened son to the preacher amid shouts of amen and hallelujah.

                        “Don’t you love your old crippled mother, Richard?” my mother asked. “Don’t leave me standing here with my empty hands, she said, afraid that I would humiliate her in public.

                        It was no longer a question of my believing in God; it was no longer a matter of whether I would steal or lie or murder; it was a simple, urgent matter of public pride, a matter of how much I had in common with other people. If I refused, it meant that I did not love my mother, and no man in that tight little black community had ever been crazy enough to let himself be placed in such a position. My mother pulled my arm and I walked with her to the preacher and shook his hand, a gesture that made me a candidate for baptism. There were more songs and prayers; it lasted until well after midnight. I walked home limp as a rag; I had not felt anything except sullen anger and a crushing sense of shame. Yet I was somehow glad that I had got it over with; no barriers now stood between me and the community.

                        “Mama, I don’t feel a thing,” I told her truthfully.

                        “Don’t you worry; you’ll grow into feeling it,” she assured me.

                        And when I confessed to the other boys that I felt nothing, they too admitted that they felt nothing.

                        “But the main thing is to be a member of the church,” they said (Wright 154-155).

I am currently reading Richard Wright’s autobiography Black Boy, and scenes like the one above are plentiful. Religion and “faith” are waved around like a spiked billy club designed to usher all wayward freethinkers into submission. I was struck by how little has changed in terms of how much pressure is put on people to make a “decision” for God – a decision that seems to be more about other people – and their power and reputation – than it is about you.

I realize that this pressure probably has evolutionary origins. We are a social species. Family/tribe membership has always been essential for our survival. Nevertheless, as we continue to evolve as a species, our concept of “the tribe” is necessarily expanding. With this expansion, I am hopeful that the outdated emotional blackmail used to bully children – and anyone who thinks differently – into religion will fall away as well.

 

Work Cited

Wright, Richard. Black Boy (American Hunger): A Record of Childhood and Youth. New York: Perennial Classics, 1998. 154-155. Print.

 

 

Black Atheists – The Other “One-percenters” | Guest Author

| by Raven Burnes

“If I were to hazard a guess about the future of black religion, I could not imagine it without according a more prominent role to one percenters” (William David Hart, author of “One Percenters”: Black Atheists, Secular Humanists, and Naturalists, page 676).

 

I read the above quoted essay recently and really enjoyed it. It identified black atheists as approximately one percent of the black population. I’m not sure whether that’s accurate or not. Considering the fact that many atheists are in the closet, either partially or fully, the number could be understated. But, assuming for the moment that the number is accurate, what kind of impact can we expect to realistically have on our theistic brothers and sisters?

 

I think it is important to remember – and Hart makes this clear in his essay – that black secular humanists, freethinkers, naturalists, and atheists have had a powerful effect on the black liberation movement. Freethinker and Darwinist evolutionary supporter, Hubert Harrison, who was known as the “father of Harlem radicalism,” affected the thinking and writings of several black literary and philosophical leaders, including A. Philip Randolph, Chandler Owen, Cyril Briggs, Richard B. Moore, Marcus Garvey, Countee Cullen, W.E.B. Du Bois, Nella Larsen, Walter White, Jessie Redmon Fauset, James Weldon Johnson, Langston Hughes, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Malcolm X (Hart 676). These notables, in turn, have affected many subsequent black leaders.

 

The late William R. Jones, who wrote “Is God a White Racist,” and Anthony B. Pinn, who wrote Writing God’s Obituary: How a Good Methodist Became a Better Atheist, are two more contemporary black freethinking thought leaders. These two men approach the subject of faith from slightly different angles, however: “As a secular humanist, Jones is less interested in debunking theism in the manner of ‘the New Atheists’ than defanging it, ” (Hart 680) while “debunking theism – that is, an epistemically driven desire to take down theism – motivates Pinn more powerfully than it does Jones” (Hart 682). Sikivu Hutchinson, author of Moral Combat: Black Atheists, Gender Politics, and the Values War, adds a much-needed feminist perspective to the contemporary black atheist discussion.

 

So, despite the apparently small numbers, African American secular humanists/atheists/freethinkers have played, and continue to play, a pivotal role in the struggle for racial justice. This should give us hope, despite the persistent caricatures of atheists in general, and black atheists specifically. I believe we play a key role in providing an alternative to “New Atheist” groups, which many (rightly or wrongly) find to be narrowly fixated on science alone, staunchly white male in composition, and seemingly unconcerned with the issues that directly impact African  American communities.

 

Speaking of the atheist community in general, as Hart reminds us (688), being an atheist only means that one does not believe in a God or gods. It does not reveal one’s political persuasion, social awareness, level of sexist or racist beliefs, nor even the adoption of various other non-theistic superstitions. Therefore, as black atheists, we must actively choose to become visible participants in the fight for racial and social justice with or without (preferably with) the support of the larger atheist community. We dare not leave social justice and humanitarian activities solely to the church. As it stands, many African Americans do rely on the black church to provide the types of social services that are needed in our communities. Unfortunately, in addition to this beneficial role, the church continues to promote homophobic and sexist ideas. It also fosters dependence upon a non-existent deity who has not, cannot, and will not do anything for us outside of what we do for ourselves. The shift from “belief” to “action” is key, in my opinion, to uniting black theists and atheists in the common struggle.

 

The actions I propose are the same types of actions that any charitable organization would provide, but under the banner of humanism. The unfortunate stereotype which atheists of all colors are saddled with is that we have no morals. Ignoring for the moment the ridiculousness of this stereotype, in order to be heard, we must combat this false perception with the truth. A common saying among black people is that we must work twice as hard as any other group to get half the respect. Not only is this still true, but atheists have the additional burden of being a minority within a minority. Nevertheless, I am hopeful that the old adage “actions speak louder than words” is no less true today than it has ever been.

 

Let us pay at least as much attention to what we do as what we believe. If we do so, I believe our “one-percent” status will one day cease to be a hindrance, or even a reality.

 

Reference:

Hart, William David. “One Percenters”: Black Atheists, Secular Humanists, And Naturalists.” South Atlantic Quarterly 112.4 (2013): 675-696. Academic Search Complete. Web. 19 Oct. 2015

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Being a black atheist, what are the most common reactions of people when they find out you’re an atheist? | A Question for the Black Atheists

 

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Bigotry Map

I Want to be Added to AFA’s “Map”!

American Family Association created a map recently. It still needs work and a lot of organizations are missing from that map and I want to be added to it. I don’t have an organization per se, but hell, since they want to target non-hate groups and label them “Anti-Christian” then why the hell not? According to the map, we’re considered bigots and should have a map that targets us. Is this similar to smearing blood on doors, and if so, should I get ready to be massacred?

The web site www.afa.net/bigotrymap includes an interactive map that identifies groups whose actions are deeply intolerant of the Christian religion. Their actions, for example, have endorsed efforts to silence Christians and to remove all public displays of Christian heritage and faith in America.

Do they realize that all this did was help me find like-minded people in my area? Thanks, AFA! I didn’t realize there were so many organizations in my neck of the woods [Cleveland, Ohio] before this map came along.

I’m trying to figure out if this map was spawned because an “atheist killed a Muslim couple over a parking spot”. I respect your “hustle” AFA, but that’s low-bar, even for Christians. FYI:  Just because someone doesn’t share your beliefs does not make that person anti-Christian and certainly does not make that person a bigot. We are talking about Christians, though; the ones who feel they are the most persecuted of the persecuted. Don’t mention the crusades, all hell will break loose, then.

See? Even when it's not about them they make it about them. This was on their blog pertaining to ISIS.

See? Even when it’s not about them they make it about them. This was on their blog pertaining to ISIS.

Fuck.

To Atheists & Christians: My Black Atheists Page is NOT Racist! | This Shit is Getting Tired!

It’s fucked up that I have to tell this shit to atheists; I expect that level of bullshit from the religious. 

I’m racist if there are people who aren’t black on my atheist page. I’m racist because the page is called ‘Black Atheists’. I’m not about equality and I’m segregating atheism for having ‘black’ in the title. I can’t win for losing. 

I get bombarded by mostly other atheists: “Would you be mad if I made a ‘White Atheist’ page?” 

It gets more ridiculous than that: “There’s a NAACP, a BET and other shit for black people, where are the white equivalents?” Are you fucking kidding me? Why would a non-marginalized majority need an equivalency? What about that is so hard for you to fucking grasp?!

Let me put it bluntly: Some of you white people need to get over this ridiculous false equivalency in your goddamned heads. You don’t need white pride or other white groups. You don’t need your own channels. You’re already everywhere as it is! Hollywood disregards race and slap white people in “historically correct” movies when there should be brown or black people. Get the-fuck out of here! Telling me that a black atheist page can only exist provided a white atheist page exists is like saying feminism can only exist provided male rights advocacy exists.

I’m not apologizing for putting ‘black’ in my title. Why? Because that’s what I am! I’m Black! I’m a woman! I’m atheist! I’m the only atheist in my family. This rings true for some black families. There are black people right now that are atheists who cannot tell their family that they are atheist. They would lose everyone! WE ARE THE MINORITY WITHIN A MINORITY! Why do I have to spell this shit out to people; especially atheists? 

This blog, my Tumblr, my Facebook page, my Twitter brings another perspective to people’s lives and a deeper understanding of the joint struggle against religious oppression. Someone on the outside wouldn’t understand black culture unless there was someone there to tell them and show them. Black atheists have cultural challenges that white Atheists know absolutely nothing about. Furthermore, after the gross and racist behavior of prominent white atheists earlier in the year, there truly needs to be alternative voices.

I think black atheists like me and other minority atheists have a harder time getting out of religion and coming out as secular, atheist, or agnostic because our culture has been drowned in the religion of our past oppressors who used religion to enslave, kill, and oppress us. The awareness of those facts is not in education nor brought to light, so that blacks, and any other person of color really that had their original belief system replaced by European Christianity. We have hard time coming out as atheist because our family is so intertwined in their faith that anyone who doesn’t believe as they do gets disowned and or killed. It happened to a cousin of mine in the South.

People look at those pages and think I’m categorizing atheism separately because I’m angry, or racist. That’s the furthest from the truth. What atheists and Christians alike fail to realize is that black atheist men & women who have escaped the religion that was forced upon their ancestors – and before that – by their slave masters are the minority of the minority. I need to categorize separately, because religion is in my culture and slave heritage and other black people need to know there are others like them. The demographic of black atheists seems to be smaller than atheists of other races because black people seem to be more influenced by religion. Having a group called ‘Black Atheists’ is more like saying “we do exist.” Rather than saying “we are trying to separate ourselves from atheists of other races”.

In a free-thinking community, you’d think racism would be the least of anyone’s worries. We are all fighting the grand evil, indoctrination for separation from religion. Again, I expected this kind of nonsense more from the religious, but that’s not the case for my page. 

There’s black atheist groups and pages on Facebook and other forms of social media that ARE pro-black and don’t allow anyone of a different race to join. Those pages and groups are toxic and I steer clear from them. That’s not me, that’s not what I represent.

On a more serious note, this is what I make of the situation:

 I think the problem why there is such thing as ‘Black Entertainment’ but not ‘White Entertainment’ is because the blacks of America have culturally integrated with each other that they form a single Afro-American identity and label them as ‘black’. The whites still keep some of their ancestral identity, which is why they sometimes label themselves as ‘Italian American’, ‘Irish American’, ‘German American’ and etc. This is why you have Italian, Irish, German club as opposed to White clubs.  This is not an issue of ethnic minority; it is an issue of ethnic identity. The Asians are a smaller minority but they still label themselves as “of Chinese descent”, “of Japanese descent”, or “of Filipino descent”.

Recent immigrants from Africa do align themselves with their more regional identity. For example, there is a large Somali population in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area who are different from those of Eritrean and Ethiopian descent. There is a vast amount of diversity in the people on the continent of Africa, and even within those three regions, which are all in the same general area.

African-Americans – or as some might argue should be termed “Black Americans” – are a unique American group without cultural ties directly back to Africa because it was systematically erased from each person due to the “peculiar” institution of chattel slavery.

When your children are taken from you, when your own relationships aren’t given the least respect, you can’t learn to record your own history, you’re often ripped away from everyone you know and sent to another environment, not allowed to speak anything but you’re captor’s language, are indoctrinated into their religion, and forced to work past exhaustion, then sometimes beaten for sport, it isn’t possible to pass on your own cultural traditions or even identity.

After a few hundred years of this, when our country finally stopped allowing this horror, its victims were completely wiped of any possible cultural memories that originated from Africa. People’s main concerns were to find their immediate families and to live free. Then Reconstruction was rejected by the scum of the earth, I mean former slave owners, and sharecropping and Jim Crow started, but that’s another lesson.

So, long story short, yes, white people and Asians have their own ethnic identities, and while recent African immigrants have that too, most black people in America don’t because the American institution of chattel slavery systematically removed it from their ancestors.

It’s not just because they were wiped out of any cultural identity by their oppressors. By the time many West Africans were sold to European slavers and were brought to the Americas, the political system in West Africa was nowhere near present day West Africa; there weren’t any rigid political boundaries; it consisted of smaller warring kingdoms. There were no identities such as Nigerian or Ghanaian; they only exist after the era of independence in Africa. The opposite is true for European identities such as English, Irish, German and etc.; they have existed for hundreds of years. Moreover, identities such as Chinese, Korean, and Japanese have existed for nearly a thousand, as opposed to contemporary African identities. So, by the time slavery stopped, Africa has changed a lot without the knowledge of the Africans who were brought to the Americas, bewildering them to which contemporary identity they belong to. This is why a diverse range of African identities exist in Europe but not as much in the Americas, because again, they were recent African immigrants.

More information on American Demographics.

So until everyone is free and equal, until justice works for all, until there is no class division that survives by the crushing of the others who are not in the super wealthy class, until privileges based on race [see white privilege] become a thing our descendants look back on in horror and disgust, until every man woman and child is treated with the same honor and dignity as the next, and until every race is given a chance to thrive in a world where we all are truly equal, we cannot ignore color, race, class, gender, sexual orientation, or any other distinctions and identifiers because we still live in a world of racism, classism, discrimination, and inequality.

So shut the fuck up with the “you have to look past the color!”, shut the fuck up with “you only see color!”, shut all the way the fuck up with “you’re racist and you’re making this all about color!”

If you’re going to say that don’t say anything at all. Simply, shut the fuck up.

If you’re one of those people who had the pleasure of receiving this as a rebuttal to your tired ass argument – suffice it to say that you actually read it – I hope you learned something. The only person that you’re hurting for continuing to stay willfully ignorant is you.

-Lee

Your God Hates Everyone So Stop With The Lies

Want to know how I know? I’ll tell you. It’s quite simple actually. Just talk to your neighborhood Christian and they’ll tell you as plain as day that ‘God loves everyone!’ That’s the biggest lie ever told. It’s to be expected seeing as Pew Research has stated that Christians know the least about their religion; their god; their bible.

Let’s list the things that your god see as abominations, or are detestable; things [he] hates and abhors and see if he’s truly all about love. This list is going to be long.

“Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.” –Leviticus 18:22

“And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.” –Leviticus 20:23

 For I the Lord love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.” –Isaiah 61:8

You’d think this god would know what offerings were going to be presented to [him] before receiving them.

“And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.” –Leviticus 18:23

Which is funny because bestality is legal in these places:

Alabama; Arkansas; Washington, D.C.; Guam; Hawaii; Kentucky; Montana; Nevada; New Hampshire; New Jersey; New Mexico; Ohio; Texas; Vermont; Virginia; West Virginia; and Wyoming (source)

 “And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.” –Leviticus 26:30

This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: You saw the great disaster I brought on Jerusalem and on all the towns of Judah. Today they lie deserted and in ruins because of the evil they have done. They aroused my anger by burning incense to and worshiping other gods that neither they nor you nor your ancestors ever knew. Again and again I sent my servants the prophets, who said, ‘Do not do this detestable thing that I hate!” –Jeremiah 44:2-4

Talk about having a tantrum. Is this a god or a toddler?

“…do not plot evil against each other, and do not love to swear falsely. I hate all this,” declares the Lord.” –Zechariah 8:17

Dude, you cursed a fig tree…then proceeded to have a table flipping contest with yourself, but not before driving everyone out of Jerusalem that were selling doves. You then left and your disciples saw that poor fig tree all withered up and what did you say? “Faith in god.” So, what did you mean, faith in yourself? You’re you! Of course you’d have faith in “god”. A fig tree lost its life because you was hungry and the tree was not in the season to grow fruit. Guess it wasn’t the season for reason, either.  –Mark 11:12-25

 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the Lord thy God.” –Deuteronomy 7:25

 “And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.” –Deuteronomy 32:19

“You ask, “Why?” It is because the Lord is the witness between you and the wife of your youth. You have been unfaithful to her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.15 Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring.So be on your guard,and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.16 “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,’ says the Lord Almighty.

So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.” –Malachi 2:14-16

“Do not sacrifice to the Lord your God an ox or a sheep that has any defect or flaw in it, for that would be detestable to him.” –Deuteronomy 17:1

“The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.” –Psalm 5:5

“…and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel,” –Deuteronomy 17:3-4

“Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.” –Psalm 5:6

The deeds and doctrines of Nicolaitanes. –Revelations 2:6-15

“There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering,anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord.” –Deuteronomy 18:10-12

“For the wicked boasteth of his heart’s desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.” –Psalm 10:3

“A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.” –Deuteronomy 22:5 

“You must not bring the earnings of a female prostitute or of a male prostitute into the house of the Lord your God to pay any vow, because the Lord your God detests them both.” –Deuteronomy 23:18

“There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.” –Psalm 53:5

 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the Lord: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.” –Deuteronomy 24:4

“As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.” –Psalm 73:20

Do not have two differing weights in your bag—one heavy, one light.14 Do not have two differing measures in your house—one large, one small.15 You must have accurate and honest weights and measures, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. 16 For the Lord your God detests anyone who does these things, anyone who deals dishonestly.” –Deuteronomy 25:13-16

Let me just chime in and say that your god is not only a liar, but petty as hell!

“When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:” –Psalm 78:59

“Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance. He gave them into the hands of the nations, and their foes ruled over them.” –Psalm 106:40-41

The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.” –Psalm 11:5

What a hypocrite.

“For the perverse are an abomination [extremely disgusting and detestable] to the Lord; but His confidential communion and secret counsel are with the [uncompromisingly] righteous (those who are upright and in right standing with Him).” –Proverbs 3:32

“The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.” –Proverbs 22:14

There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.” –Proverbs 6:16-19

If this is really the word of god then [he’s] not looking too stable right now. It’s almost outright frightening how hypocritical this god is. No wonder [his] sheep is such a splitting of [him]. It’s all making sense now. God apparently killed all those first-born babies of egypt with no hands. “Look ma, no hands!”

Then it continues:

“…a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community. –Proverbs 6:18-19

“And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.” –Lamentations 2:6

The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.” –Proverbs 12:22

I don’t know about you, but this is getting repetitive…redundant even.

“All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.” –Hosea 9:15

“The Lord detests the sacrifice of the wicked but the prayer of the upright pleases him. The Lord detests the way of the wicked, but he loves those who pursue righteousness.10 Stern discipline awaits anyone who leaves the path; the one who hates correction will die.” Proverbs 15:8-10

“Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.” –Zechariah 11:8

The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord, but the words of the pure are pleasant.” –Proverbs 15:26

God sure had a thing with the “wicked”.

“And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.” –Malachi 1:3

“Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.” –Proverbs 16:5

 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” –Romans 9:13

Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent—the Lord detests them both.” –Proverbs 17:15

There is no winning with this guy…

Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—I cannot bear your worthless assemblies. Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals. I hate with all my being. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them.” –Isaiah 1:13-14

Prima…donna.

Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to the Lord your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the Lord your God hates.” –Deuteronomy -16:21-22

I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. 22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them. 23 Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. 24 But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!” –Amos 5:21-24

“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his
father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.” –Matthew 10:34-35

You can go here to have your fill.

From these scriptures alone, your god hates everyone. So stop passive aggressively telling me that your god loves me and loves “all god’s creatures” when that is clearly not the case. Your god doesn’t even like you. Your god doesn’t hate the sin but loves the sinner. Otherwise, there would’t be over 650 scriptures dedicated to getting rid of said sinners in a lake of fire. So stop it.

Thanks in advance.

Your neighborhood atheist.

-Lee

“God gave my son autism because I once had an abortion”

Toni Braxton had an abortion. She was taking a drug called Accutane. It’s anti-acne drug. It was usually used as a chemotherapy drug for brain and pancreatic cancers. The goal for Accutane as an acne drug was to shrink and eliminate sebum-producing cells in the skin. The chemicals in Accutane attacks rapidly reproducing cells like those of a developing fetus. Embryos exposed to the drug can have severe birth defects.

Everyone who “makes it” isn’t all that bright. Toni Braxton is one of those dull crayons in a box of 64. “God gave my son autism because I once had an abortion” is the most insulting sentence I’ve read in all of 2 days. She insulted women who had abortions and women who gave birth to autistic kids – as well as the kids themselves.

Technically, in a morbid unrealistic sense, she’s absolutely right. Her god – if it was real – did punish her for having an abortion, or eating pork, or wearing clothes of two different fabrics. See where I’m getting at? It could have been a plethora of things. While staying within her realm of logic, god is a petty, vindictive, childish, prick. Now, if I was her – which I’m glad I’m not – I wouldn’t worship an ass-wipe who gave my son autism. So in order to punish HER for something, her imaginary friend in the sky, who loves her, mind you, put lifelong suffering on someone else. Her child didn’t make her have the abortion, she got the abortion, so why isn’t god punishing her directly? Simple. He/She/It doesn’t exist.

It’s a cop-out excuse. She can’t deal with the fact her son has autism. She’s giving credit for an invisible man in the sky because she had a baby with autism. She’s also making it about herself. It’s like she believes the sun rises and sets on her ass. It doesn’t. How moronic and self-absorbed do you have to be to believe that god is that involved in your life?

If she had learned when she was young to be extremely careful about drugs when pregnant or when possibly becoming pregnant, and about the power of chemistry instead of some irrelevant passage from an old book the abortion would not have been necessary.

I’m not even going to talk about how she’s anti-vaccine because her son was given the MMR vaccine and that’s when she noticed the signs that her son had autism.

To say your is son an object used to punish you is fucked up. When you start publicly calling it a punishment from god, what does that say about how you feel about your kid and their condition? Her god of choice didn’t punish her with an autistic son because having an autistic son isn’t a punishment.

That’s my take on it.

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Being Atheist and Pro-life Are Two Different Things

First, let me just say, I’m pro-choice. Okay, now that we’ve gotten that out of the way. Moving on…

For some reason, in the atheist community pro-life activists who are atheists have seem to have blurred lines. The ones that are blurring them are atheists who are pro-choice. I don’t think they understand the difference between the two. The uphold two different kinds of backgrounds.

Atheist is the disbelief in God. Nothing more. Atheist can be pro-life just as much as they can be for or against gay rights. -Ray P.

We have atheists bashing other atheists because their views aren’t like theirs. They’re calling them religious zealots not realizing that they’re starting to look like religious zealots.

The only thing interesting about this post is that it shows there are some atheists who aren’t very bright, and have less respect for the rights of the living and the breathing than those who aren’t. -Dave U

Yes, atheists who are pro-life seems like an oxymoron. Yes, they’re on a slippery slope. My question is, what does not believing in a deity have anything to do with being pro-life or pro-choice?

Source: prolifehumanists.org

Source: prolifehumanists.org

Confessions of a Pro-Life Atheist: Why I Fight Abortion

Pro-choice and pro-life isn’t a religious thing so why is it that atheists are calling pro-life atheists “lost and confused agnostics”? Why are they being treated like Christians? I can understand where they’re coming from to an extent, but I’m just not understanding the hatred and the bashing.

Atheists Against Abortion | Facebook

I was told today that because I am pro-life I do not support a woman’s right to choose and am therefore not an atheist. 

Apparently stupidity is not relegated to the religiosity alone. 

My belief in no God(s) makes me an atheist. My stance on abortion makes me a human with an opinion. I am against abortion for 2 simple reasons. 

1) I abhor waste. 
2) I abhor the abrogation of personal responsibility.John F.

There are racist atheists, anti-gay atheists, republican atheists, conservative atheists, stupid atheists – and I’ve ran across them all. So you mean to tell me that pro-lifers can’t be atheists? Well I’m here to say that yes they can. Why? Because they have shit to do with each other! If atheists can be bigoted, anti-gay, and pro-choice, they can be pro-life too.
Being pro-life is not about being Christian, being pro-life is about being human. I agree with the British Medical Association, and many others, who consider implantation as the beginning of a pregnancy, and therefore of a human life. I’m a Humanist, and in my opinion the right to life is the most basic human right. It is a conclusion everybody should be able to reach, regardless of their religion or absence of it. -Frank L.
People from the Black Atheists facebook page is going to read this and may unlike the page. Oh well. More power to you. Bringing up this issue doesn’t make me any less of an atheist. I happen to be pro-choice. I just question things that doesn’t make sense to me. This blurring lines together just doesn’t compute in my head. Some would argue, “well, what does being pro-gay rights have anything to do with atheism?” My response would be absolutely nothing. It’s a human choice to be pro or anti. Not believing in a god doesn’t have anything to do with it. Otherwise there wouldn’t be pro-gay rights Christians and Muslims.
If I support gay rights and i’m pro-life, that would be my choice. That wouldn’t make me less of a believer in God. Maybe I believe that life is sacred and it is better to live than not to have lived at all. Maybe I don’t care who you are screwing in your bedroom while other atheist believe that same-sex relationships is ruining our society. That wouldn’t make me or them any less of an atheist. -Ray J. (From Black Atheists)
I’m not sure what kind of back-lash this kind of blog post is going to bring. I feel like me being atheist and pro-choice having these kinds of questions would leave me feeling like the only one; the lonely one. That’s fine. I’m okay with that. I just hope I get people from both sides of the fence and not people screaming at me in ALL CAPS that I’m no better than the pro-lifers. That argument in itself is no better than a christian with no facts screaming that god is good all the time, and all the time god is good.
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From The Admins: The Science You Deny – UltraEvil

“Heh. Whilst I sit in my home designed with scientifically engineered materials including stabilization methods scientifically discovered, using electricity generated by a scientifically created power plant, using scientifically developed wifi, on my scientifically created laptop made of scientifically made materials I’m going to ridicule you about your reliance on science instead of faith and how everyone who created everything I benefit from are wrong because my book, which I also have on my scientifically made IPad, is much more accurate than your science. Heh.”

-UltraEvil

“My friend shared something from your page and I’m offended!”

So?

What exactly does that have to do with Black Atheists as a whole? Shouldn’t you be taking that up with the person that shared something from our page on THEIR wall? After I post something, I have no control who shares what, when or where. It’s obvious that a lot of people don’t understand how Facebook work.

Since that seems to be a growing case on BA, I’m going to show you guys how easy, fast and simple it is to build a bridge and get over it.

Exhibit A:

damnyo

Now get over it.

The time you spend sending me messages, trolling and spamming the Black Atheist Facebook page with your disapproval of our existence, you could have easily shrugged it off and hidden whatever it was that pissed you off. That or simply scroll past the highly offensive content. But of course, that’s too much like right.

If you’re coming to BA, hopefully it’s to have a debate and to not tell us you’re going to pray for us because you lack a better argument.

Becoming A Contributor for Black Atheists’ Facebook Page

Let me get this out-of-the-way now: No, you do not have to be black.

That’s usually the question people ask when considering being apart of BA’s team. It doesn’t matter what race you are. Every once in a while I look for admins, but mostly right now, I’m only looking for contributors.

Qualifications:

  • We prefer if people posted everyday at least 5-10 times. We like to keep the page active and content current due to how Facebook sometimes check how and what is shown on people’s news feeds.
  • We are not paying you. That should be a given.
  • Even though we are not paying you and you’re not truly obligated to keep us in the know when you cannot take part for the day, week or month, it’s only common courtesy if you do so. We all have lives and we will always have times where we’re busier than the other contributors and admins, so it wouldn’t hurt to just let me know.
  • Please do not post anything from “Proud to be Atheist”, or The fraudulent AaRT Facebook page. There are two of these pages floating around and one is genuine and the other one isn’t.
  • Give credit to images where possible. If you gotten it from ‘Atheist Republic, make sure you link their Facebook page with the content you’re posting.
  • Try sharing instead of uploading images that come from other Facebook pages.
  • When it’s possible, avoid feed the trolls at all cost, just simply ignore them and I’ll get around to banning them. They’re totally not worth our time. If they come with a sub-par decent debate, fine. Just don’t stoop down to their level when they start the name calling. It makes you both look like tools.
  • Please take note to this document I’ve created on the page.

Before you are considered to becoming a contributor, you will be of coursed asked a series of questions that I hope you’re okay with.