9 Questions Atheists Should Not Ask Believers (And Why) – WTF?

The religidiots of Tumblr are at it again…wtf? We’re going to ask them whatever the fuck we want to ask them.

Nine Questions Atheists Should Not Ask Believers (And Why)

(Because I’m inspired by the article)

1. Why don’t you just believe in Science?

We do.  The idea that science is a monolithic force in opposition to religion is every bit as ignorant as the idea that all religious people are equivalent, or all religions believe the same things.  This question is simply another way of stating the claim that religious people are less intelligent or logical than a non-religious person.  So… yes.  It’s offensive.

And science is not in-and-of-itself sufficient to provide morality, purpose, and direction for one’s life.  Not even an atheistic life.  You might believe in the pursuit of knowledge, but that’s an entirely separate thought from PRACTICING science, or ACCEPTING scientific theories.  Science is an ideologically neutral subject that provides direction on how to investigate the world. One cannot worship or have faith in science any more than they can base their morality on a guide to cooking.

2. Why do you have to believe in God?

Just to give atheists someone to argue with.  You’re welcome.

There are plenty of philosophical reasons why someone might come to the conclusion that God exists.  If you don’t understand those reasons, then I can suggest several great books.  It’s offensive because it assumes that believers have no reason for their beliefs and have not given them any thought.

3. If Heaven is real, why don’t you kill yourself?

The value of life and avoidance of sin and whatnot, the fact that we’re not suicidal, life being too short and too wonderful… all likely similar to the reasons atheists might give for not killing themselves(other than sin).  It’s almost as if most people are not that different from each other!

4. Who created God?

This is a misunderstanding of the contingency argument.  It’s asked either because 1. You’re an amateur “philosopher” who doesn’t understand why asking this question is absurd and offensive to people who actually study philosophy, or 2. You’re asking someone who doesn’t know philosophy solely to confuse them and make them feel stupid without having a good argument of your own.

Either way, you’re being a jerk when you ask this.  Or expressing ignorance, which is not so bad, if you admit that’s what you’re doing.

5. Have you read the ENTIRE bible/other holy book?

For one thing, most people would not define a Christian/member of any religion as “someone who has read X book.”- so the question has no philosophical relevance nor does it imply that the person not a member of X religion.  For another, reading a book has nothing to do with understanding said book.  Many atheists are good examples of that fact.

If the point of asking is to argue about how many people died/rape accusations/genocide/other horrors(which it usually is), then it’s an argument by outrage/appeal to emotion:  A logical fallacy that has nothing to do with whether the religion in question is true or not.  And arguments by outrage are inherently offensive- they are intended to be.

6. Why don’t you believe in Thor/Zeus/Mithra/Unicorns/The Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Can you give me a single reason why I should?  Do you know a proselytizer of Thor that I should really talk to?

If not, It’s a red herring logical fallacy to bring up unrelated ideas to distract from the primary subject: Is MY religion the true one, or is MY belief logically sound?  I don’t answer for anyone else’s, and logically, I don’t have to.  The question is designed to avoid actual debate while attempting to demonstrate the religious person ignorant for not having an argument against .

7. Why would a loving God send anyone to Hell?

Because universal love and universal acceptance are not necessarily the same thing.  Anyone with children could explain this concept: You love them, regardless of the unacceptable behavior they often demonstrate.  The real question is, when would you cut your children off from your life completely?  If they commit murder?  Rape?  Torture?  If they ask you to cut them off from your life completely?

Hell is better understood as a chosen separation from God.  But that aside, belief in Hell(and who goes there) has NOTHING to do with whether or not God is loving.  It’s an inadequate assumption of a particular(false) definition of love, and another sort of argument by outrage fallacy.

8.  If God exists, why is there evil?

If evil did not exist, then neither would God.  The idea of good and evil are moral judgments that would be meaningless in an atheistic universe.

But as an argument against the Christian God specifically?  The bible admits that there’s evil.  It does a pretty good of describing it explicitly(Pretty sure most other religions justify evil as well).  Personally, I think the question is ‘interesting’, but it’s also a philosophical one that’s older than dirt and written about just as much.  If you were really curious, you wouldn’t be asking me.  You’d read about it.

9. Why should blind faith be considered moral?

The Bible does not teach blind faith.  But if a particular religion did, on what basis would blind faith NOT be moral?  What is morality, and who decides that?

Beyond the fact that the question itself is logically absurd and poorly defined, it’s also an assumption that the believer is ignorant PURELY on the basis that they have belief.  That’s an ad hominem fallacy.  And is insulting and offensive.

All this said, the idea that a BELIEF should not be questioned- however offensively questioned- is utter nonsense.  Everyone has beliefs.  Everyone has questions about other people’s beliefs.  Some of those questions will be offensive, because many people are jerks.

Get over it.

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This is the dumbest shit I’ve read so far on Tumblr…I will be making “10 Questions To Not Ask An Atheist (And Why).

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Accomplishments Off The Backs of Others: Atheist Facebook Page Owners Who Are Intellectually Dishonest

I’m Proud to be an Atheist, Atheists and Rational Thinkers, and Global Secular Humanism Movement are guilty of stealing the work of others. Removing links, cropping out logo‘s, or simply posting it and saying it was from a fan. When asked to give credit, people are then blocked or ignored altogether. We are supposed to be an example of good moral standing but when there are people like Edward, Waleed, and Faisal doing the very opposite of that, makes it harder for pages like mine and others to get the exposure we need.

When you find an image on Google and it has a trademark or logo from another source, it is not of sound morality to remove said logo or trademark and say you found it on Google that way. You give credit where it’s due.

One owner has went as far as quoted from a famous atheist as if it came from off the top of his head. When confronted about said quote he claimed that a fan sent it. Well, who is this fan? Where did they get it from? Why didn’t you at least mention them? The logic behind “well, a fan sent it” I don’t seem to get. If they sent it, why can’t they site the source and then they can just implement it to whatever it is they’re posting?

They ‘like’ other atheist pages to steal content. Once something is posted, they immediately steal it and upload it – after removing logo’s, links as their own without giving a shred of accreditation. It’s usually within minutes of posting when they do their image robbing.

So I guess you’re wondering. “Well, they’re a part of the atheist movement, who cares if they steal an image or two?” It’s not just an image or two and this kind of dishonesty is to be expected of theists, not atheists. We are a people united and when there is a group of dishonest people among us, it is in our character to expose them for the lying thieves that they are.

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If You’re Black & A Christian…

Seriously, how stupid are you?

The old testament was justification for all of the slavery in the south. If you are black and Christian, you’re selling out to the system that enslaved your forefathers for generations and produced a system of indoctrination to continue that cycle of abuse.

Don’t get me wrong, some of the earliest Christians were black and some of the earliest Christian communities were in Africa, but how could you forget the past 500 years and West Africa‘s relationship to Europe and America?

What’s crazier? A Black Mormon. I think that’s more ridiculous than a Black Christian.

If you know of ’31 Status’, I would run away from them as fast as possible. They’re by far the most delusional. Their whole reason of existence is based around proverbs 31. They can tell women are with purpose, are beautiful, are strong and independent without the bible, but will they? No. Why? Because. Because why? You’re sheep and they hand feed you the very same nitpicked bible scriptures your parents nitpicked; your pastor nitpicked. Yes, outright they’re good, but they’re also hypocrites.

If they really knew the bible, they wouldn’t be using that shit to push their agenda; an agenda that you’re already wrapped up in.

Proverbs 31 

A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
¹¹ Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
¹² She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.
¹³ She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.
¹⁴ She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.
¹⁵ She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants. (SLAVES!)
¹⁶ She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
¹⁷ She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
¹⁸ She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
¹⁹ In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
²⁰ She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.
²¹ When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
²² She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
²³ Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
²⁴ She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.
²⁵ She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.
²⁶ She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
²⁷ She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
²⁸ Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
²⁹ “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.”
³⁰ Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
³¹ Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

She’s a slave herself and all-the-while, where is this so-called husband? What the fuck is he doing? He’s sitting on his ass[23]. Mind you, there are different versions of this but spews the same nonsense.

Status 31′s Website: “Who we are?”

  The mission of the 31 Status movement is to show women around the world what a Proverbs 31 woman looks like in todays generation. We want to set a new standard of beauty in a world that tells us sex and seduction is the only way to find love. We believe true love comes from God, and we want to help you know Him and know yourself in a greater way. We want to empower and encourage you to better yourself mentally, physically, and spiritually. Finally, our goal above all else is for you to embrace “Who and Whose you are” as a female and as a 31.

As our organization grows, we plan to provide avenues for global outreach and recovery centers. Join us through prayer and spreading the word as we impact women worldwide.

-scratches head-

You don’t need prayer and you for damn sure don’t need god. Status 31 isn’t the only culprit, here, but it’s the most recent one that pissed me off. Let’s play, ‘Find the Contradiction’!:

1 Corinthians 7:3-9

The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. Now as a concession, not a command, I say this. I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.

Did you find it?

Ephesians 5:22-33

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word.

Where is it?

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

You’re so special to god, yet you get treated like shit. You’re not even supposed to open your mouth! Slavery is throughout the entire bible but you disregard all of that. It doesn’t matter that your ancestors were brought here and manipulated, huh? Right – it has nothing to do with you and the present. Don’t be fooled, it has a lot to do with the present – seeing as the bible isn’t a book that was kept in the past. It’s in my present, holding us back – well, not me, you.

Christianity is completely okay with slavery. This is one customs of the Old Testament that many “Christians” like to pretend don’t exist. Christ himself supports a slavery system in multiple teachings. “But, it’s from the Old Testament, so it doesn’t matter”. You’re still following the same god, right? A god that had to revise the old testament into a new testament, right? Okay, then.

Notice how proverbs 31 is moot and pointless? Name one person who follows this bullshit down to the letter today. Adultery  lusting, hell, even the roles have changed. The woman is at home, making sandwiches, doing laundry and the man is building the homes, making the greenbacks. Where’s your god, now? It seems like it’s okay to disregard that as well as the book of Leviticus (yep, you fucking hypocrites – I went there) seeing as so much has changed since then.

You can be virtuous without god, as well as good.

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God Could Save A Man At A Gas-station, But Not An 8-Year-Old Boy?

Or anyone else that perished or suffered that horrendous day! The Boston Marathon bombing will be in history books, it will be retold and retold. Soon enough, if humans haven’t killed themselves off by then, there will be a time when someone saying “God was with me” is mocked and ridiculed for its ridiculousness.

It’s cute how they try so hard to convert you. I don’t need or want to be your friend. What could you possibly have gone through that would prove to me that your god exist? Did you get nailed to a cross then came back almost 2½ days later? Doubt it. You can keep your testimonies, your friend requests and your made-up zombie Jesus.

Wait, did this deluded person just say she doesn’t know the moon exist? She’s worst than the one yesterday who asked me, “How do you know air exists?”

Oh! It continues!

 

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“Atheists Shouldn’t Be Allowed to Marry”

Why not? Same reason why gay people aren’t allowed to marry? To me, it seems one is more serious than the other. I don’t see rallies for people against atheists getting married. What’s the big deal? It’s not marriage is sacred or anything. Some believe that atheism contradicts marriage but I don’t see how that’s possible, either. I was married and those close to me knew I was an atheist so, either they didn’t care or they didn’t want to have their asses handed back to them if they mentioned the sanctity of marriage. The bible may this and you can say that – which is cute, by the way:

Y’all can believe anything you want, but marriage is a spiritual union which man has, over time caused to become a legal contract.
Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed.

That was the first marriage ceremony.

But, the bible also says this:

Colossians 3:18-19

Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.  Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

-Scratches head- Now, I don’t see too many women submitting to their husbands; I mean only if they’re in to that kind of thing but the point is there’s a lot of shit in that damn book that most Christians do not follow. Why? Because they don’t know it’s there. Why? Because they don’t read the damned thing! Funny, that those who’s only rebuttal is citing Adam and Eve as the first wedding.That would mean that the first wedding was about 4,000 years after the Sumerians invented glue. Oh, here’s another one:

Hebrews 13:4-7

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.  Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”  So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?”  Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.

The excuse? “The government took away the sanctity of marriage!” To me, the moment that happened, marriage was no longer sacred or should have been for one group-set.

There are so many bible verses that aren’t followed and yet when someone steps outside of what they consider normal, THEN they want to thump their bibles. Why bother? When marriage, of any kind, causes physical harm to you or anyone else, then that’s when you should open your mouth and say something. Not a moment before.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Guess what? You’re going to Hell!

Ha.

This looks like a bunch of he-said, she-said and someone just so happened to be there to write it down. Maybe.

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“Science Doesn’t Benefit Us”

Excuse me but, what?! One of my contributor’s friends (obviously a religious nut-job) had this to say on our Facebook page:

Do you even logic?

The greatest rebuttal to said nonsense was that of one of our members:

“Dear atheists, can science protect you?” – It already has. Thanks to science I am able to go to the doctor and get antibiotic when I’m sick. My car is also safer to drive thanks to scientific tests and analysis. 

“Did science expand your breast with your initial breath?” – Science itself can not do anything. We learn how phenomena take place and how nature works through science.

“Your promotion of science is enabling governments to take actions based on equations. Not based on wisdom seeking justice or justice seeking wisdom; the infinite equation.” – Our promotion of science? Science is not only promoted by Atheists, it has always been promoted and was pioneered by theists. Wisdom is nothing more than learning your faults over time and reflecting on what could have been to better the outcome of those faults. That is a general form of science in the scale of a lifetime regarding personal choices.

“Equations that do not benefit community, sustaining freedom and natural rights. Yes, you have been deceived before and now in combative nature you seek to be deceived at your own game.” – Equations such as 1+1 or the observation that homosexuality is not unnatural and therefore should not be banned? Last I checked, it was specific faiths trying to inhibit our nature, not science. Science does nothing but explains how it is that nature works and theorizes as to why.

“Rather than to continue to trust in God and revive your faith.” If you pledge covenant to one, how can you another? I assure you, if you pledge covenant to science, the damnation of your youth in inevitable.” – Okay, this is fucking ridiculous. First off, you can accept science (which is the study of nature and natural laws through a process which allows us to try to bypass our biases because they have a tendency to cloud the truth) and still be religious. As a believer, you probably think that God is outside of the laws of nature and is eternal. With that belief in place, there is nothing to say that God didn’t create the Universe. If you want to believe that He did, that’s fine, but you can’t ignore everything within his creation and then tell us that WE’RE damned for actually accepting it.

For those of you who are religious yet reject science, you are more blind then I, I assure you. If, for the sake of argument, God exists and has created everything that we observe in the natural world, and we use the process of science to be more conclusive about our observations, by denying what we find, aren’t you in essence denying your God’s creation as well? – Theresa C.

As you can see, ‘Chef’ used his vocabulary to say absolutely nothing. Mind you, he pushed his agenda on Black Atheists’ Facebook page on what? A computer, through Facebook, which was created by – a what? Yep, an atheist.

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Jurisprudence is based on written law and common law, which provides a structured philosophy and guidelines. It does not exempt science. In fact, science is used in jurisprudence all the time. We don’t have any Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber, courtrooms where a witch is drowned, and if she dies she wasn’t a witch. We do, however, have forensics, forensic specialists who testify and then, based on “evidence” decisions are made. – Dana C.

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From The Members: Contributor – Shaherah

Why is race so important when it comes to religion and being an atheist? Well, let me show you why I think it is:

Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect …(Titus 2:9)

Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. (Colossians 3:22)

Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ …(Ephesians 6:5)

Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed. (1 Timothy 6)

Blacks were forced into this religion by slavery. Their mental and physical abuse was endorsed by this wicked philosophy of evil men. Most people don’t know these verses are there, because they don’t read the bible. They spend their entire lives “studying” the same book one passage at a time, and conveniently skip over these parts (mainly guided by preachers at churches)

I urge all people, especially black people, to actually read the bible and study what they believe in. You’ll see what you’re actually worshiping…a philosophy of evil men, based on an immoral mythical character that endorsed the slavery of your ancestors.

- Shaherah

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Undercover Atheist

Being a undercover atheist can sometimes be the most annoying thing ever, but it is a annoyance that I must deal with if I plan to have any piece of mind. Now when I say undercover atheist, I am not referring to a nonbeliever who pretends to be a christian just to see what goes on inside the church, I have more of a life than that (hopefully I didn’t offend anyone if that is something that you partake in). I am referring to the fact that I hide my true beliefs in order to keep drama down with friends and issues with my family at bay.

My family is very religious. I have always wanted to tell them of my disbelief in our supreme, righteous, all knowing daddy (AKA god) but I fear what the consequences of that might be. I NEED MY FAMILY! I need to be able to talk to them constantly. I need to be able to attend family dinners and not have everyone treat me as if I am a step child. So I hide how I truly feel about religion in order to protect myself from losing any love from my family. I go to church with them sometimes, listen to them pray, and I will even give them a dollar or two for the “building fund that never seems to add anything to building.” Thats about as far as I will go though.

Now I know most of you are probably saying that, “I should not have to hide my true self from my family. They should love me know matter what I believe in.” Well that is true but you must also remember that this is religion that we are talking about. Religion has a way of making parents kill their children, preachers butt fucking little boys, countries going to war and killing millions, etc, etc!! My family might be understanding and love me anyway, but that is a risk that I am not willing to take. I would much rather sacrifice being a open atheist rather than be without my family. That might change one day in the future but at this current point in time, that is how I am.

When it comes to my friends, I tend to be a little more vocal about my beliefs but I hardly just tell people that I’m a atheist. Friends are easy to replace and I tend to surround myself with people who are not judgmental. I’m a geek and I love science so the people I hang with are usually the same way. I do have a few however, that are stupidly religious (Is stupidly a word? Like someone please tell me as I’m to lazy to google it). If you say one bad thing about the bible, they get all offended. Yesterday, I said “fuck you preacher, talking about come to church on time and your ass be late for every church event there is,”on twitter. My ex girlfriend (notice I said ex) got so offended, that she went on a big rant about how I was going to hell. My reply to her of course was that “I love the heat” LOL.

So that is my “Undercover Atheist” life in a nutshell. Now for all of you who are going to call me weak and a hypocrite, take this into consideration. Imagine you are a young man who just graduated from college. You are going to the Air Force in April but you have little money on hand and a ton of bills to pay. You are the victim of a crapy economy so finding steady work is hard to come by until you leave in April. The last thing you need is to be fighting with family and friends when you seriously need their help. Well if that alters your opinion of the situation, know that that is my current state. I really need all of my bridges intact.

If you are going through something similar, please share.

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Realizing I Don’t Believe In God (New Arthor: Rodney)

I’m not really big on introductions but let me give you a very brief summary of who I am. My name is Rodney and I’m a geek. I graduated from Louisiana Tech University with a Bachelors of Science in Computer information Systems. I’m currently 23 years old and will be joining the USAF in the upcoming months. I love technology, politics, and recently have grown to love blogging (Ironic seeing that I have always hated English). But that’s enough of that; lets get to the point of this rant.

I was born and raised in a Christian environment. When I was 8, I became a member of a church and attended worship services and bible class every week. I said my prayers at night, read my bible, and tried to follow the bible as closely as possible and without blemish. I was what they call “a good Christian child.” Now after reading that, you might wonder how is it that I stopped believing in god?

Retracing over my childhood, I was always the skeptical type. I loved math, science, and history. I wanted evidence for everything. If I were told something that did not make sense, I would question it and demand proof. This eventually started interfering with my teachings in church. There were far to many logical fallacies contained in the bible for my liking. That’s when I started questioning everything I was being told.

It first started with small questions like where did god come from and how did a virgin have a baby. Of course I would get the typical “he was always here” and “it was the power of god” answers. These answers were not satisfactory to me but they were the best answers I would receive. As I became older, I urged for more precise answers. How was it possible to flood the entire planet and where did all the water go? Why would the devil leave heaven if it were so great? What makes Christianity right and other religions wrong? Why does the bible contradict itself? As you can see, there were a lot questions that I needed answered.

I started praying and searching for answers to all of my questions. I had counseling sessions with preachers, went to every church event possible, and even took a course in religion (huge waste of time). I wanted to believe that god was real. I wanted to believe in heaven and the hope of eternal life. Heck, I wanted to believe that if I paid my tithe to the church, I would be financially blessed. After reasoning with myself, it became obvious. I did not believe in “god.”

I had allowed myself to follow a religion without making sanity of it first. All the wasted time spent in church when I could have been getting production out of my life. All the money I had given to the church when I could have put it to much better use. I had been hoodwinked! Oh how disappointed was I in my inability to match religion with fairy tales.

But yea, that’s my short story. Notice that I like to keep my rants short and simply worded. I have since become an undercover atheist, which I will tell you guys about at a later time. Please share your experiences, if any, with me in the comment section. Also feel free to criticize the living hell (if there is one) out of me if you want, doesn’t matter.

Rodney.

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Just a Simple Note…

In order for you to be right about “your” religious beliefs, you would have to be right and everyone else has to be wrong. Do you really believe that you have a monopoly on the truth or even the facts? Even if you don’t want to face it, believing that you are right while others are wrong is a very seductive idea. Why? Because it appeals to your ego.

Why do religions such as Islam and Christianity spend such effort on teaching believers to reject any ideas that come from other faiths? If a religion “truly” comes from God almighty, you’d think it would be self-evident. The ideas and concepts should be obviously and completely inspired; superior. What I have found is that most religions are like pizza, they come in different flavors but the ingredients are pretty much the same.

I don’t think that god would create intelligent, self-aware beings such as ourselves so that he could cast us into eternal punishment for 70 or 80 years for making mistakes. You Jesus folks out there believe in the devil who was Lucifer, who was himself created by god. Then that would mean that the one in charge of tempting us all our lives is also the one who gets put in charge of punishing us when we die; put in charge by the one who created us? This seems ridiculous.

To my mind, it seems much more probable that these ideas are part of a scam, created by men,and perpetrated on gullible people in order to achieve social control and conformity. Heaven is the incentive, hell is the penalty;obedience is the price for achieving one while avoiding the other. A concept like this could have been cooked up by a few scam artists about 4 or 5 thousand years ago, and it worked so well it’s still around today.

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“Go to church or get out!”

What kind of bullshit is that to say to someone you gave birth to?

I guess I should start from the beginning: I hate my in-laws. They’re hard-core, brainwashed bible thumpers. My husband was staying with them because he could no longer stay with me (long story). Well, he told them about his beliefs (or lack thereof) and, from that point on; they started treating him like a stepchild. They wouldn’t let him have a key so he could get in at night after he got off work, he had to deal with his undisciplined nephew because his sister feels that he can run the house because she too damn lazy to be a mother. Now, it has resorted to him having to leave and live on the streets because they told him, “You either go to church this Sunday, or get out”. What?! What kind of god-fearing sheep would tell someone that?

What’s even crazier is that they feel he’s worshipping the devil and invited demons to live inside of him. I have one question: If one doesn’t believe in that kind of sanctimonious bullshit, how can they worship an entity that doesn’t exist? You cannot not believe in one and believe in another. It’s obvious the irrational part of their brainwashed mind has taken over.

I know one thing; my son will never see them again. He will not visit them, talk to them on the phone, send them pictures; nothing! When they said that and meant it with every fiber of their being, that mean they didn’t want to see their grandson. They’re kicking their son; their brother out with nowhere else to go because he’s no longer a sheep is absolutely ridiculous. Now my son cannot visit his dad unless we go to my grandmother’s house. He can’t spend quality time with his son because they want to treat him like a Satan worshipper.

They’re missing out on a beautiful relationship with their grandson and I because they want to do the judging that was so-called left up to their maker. What they’re doing tells me that they’re afraid; afraid that what we have said is true – which it is. They resort to that book of lies for the answers but where’s the proof? God has killed more people in the bible than Satan itself. They wouldn’t know that though because they’ll only read Deuteronomy, Genesis and Psalms. They’re not going to read the shit that’ll throw their beliefs upside down on their ass. If they do, they’ll interpret it as something that needed to be done or that the deaths were warranted – the plagues were warranted.

These very same people who would give you a place to sleep will throw you out without blinking. If you don’t follow their way of thinking then all is lost and you can’t stay with them; even if you’re working and trying to get into college to better your life. None of that matters if you don’t believe in the man in the sky.

They’re just furthering my point: religion makes people do stupid, and reckless shit. They knew he didn’t have anywhere else to go but because he’s not religious, he had to go. You would think there would be more pressing things to be damning someone to hell about but in this case there isn’t. Kicking their son out contradicts everything they ever preached in Sunday school, everything they preached in morning service. They’re nothing but hypocrites and I’ve lost all respect for them. They chose their religion over flesh in blood that they can actually see, feel, hear, and smell.

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How Do We Know We’re Not in Hell Now?

It has been said that Hell is not a place you go if you’re not a Christian; it’s what happens when you fail your life’s greatest ambitions. I have always enjoyed this explanation of hell. Not because it’s different than the traditional depictions of hell. I think of the traditional hell with fire and brimstone being flung everywhere and flames surrounding you, with silhouetted demons mocking you at every turn. For some people like myself, I can imagine getting used to an eternity of annoying demons and balls of fire falling from the sky. At least I would never need to put on a shirt again. No, the traditional description of hell isn’t all that hellish if you ask me. However, I can imagine much deeper darker sets of anguish and torment. I am sure everyone can. Or at least people who have a modern understanding of the Universe and how cosmologically small we all are.

If heaven is SO great, what is it about death you’re so scared of?

Heaven is supposed to be this great place for people who all they have to do is ask their god to forgive them for their sins and they’ll have a guaranteed ticket to the paradise in the sky. All the while people are crying and practically having a panic attack when someone tells them they’re going to die. Heaven is so great right? You should be looking forward to being there; unless you think you’re going to hell then that’s just funny. What are you so scared of huh? Especially if you’ve done right in this world, what do you have to lose if you die? You’re so secure in your beliefs, you should have your bags packed when you die.

In religion, Heaven is a transcendental realm in which people who have died continue to exist in an afterlife. The term “heaven” may refer to the physical heavens, the sky or the seemingly endless expanse of the universe.

Remember, all you have to do is give yourself to your lord and poof, when you die, you’ll be in heaven. But what if you forget to repent? Do you automatically go to hell? Or is it based on how extreme your sins are? So many questions that for a second I didn’t even care to ask. What is it about life that have you so scared about death? Is it how you’re going to die? You don’t want to be in pain? Well it’ll all be over sooner or later right? Heaven is so great that the pain should be worth it. What, you still have things you want to do before you die? Tough cookie. Shit happens. How accomplished are you going to feel once you’re dead? After you’ve done all that you’ve done in life and you’re on your death-bed, how gratuitous are you going to feel about what you accomplished? Is that going to pass over in that afterlife of yours? Is god going to give you brownie points for taking sky diving lessons and the fact that you put your life in gods hands it was all worth it?

From what I’ve read in that book. Just about everyone is going to hell. I’m sure most of you have done one of these things:

• Cursed. (Ephesians 5:4)
• Sat on your ass on Saturdays. (Exodus 20:8)
• Gossiped. (Leviticus 19:16)
• Shaved. (Leviticus 19:17)
• Eating lobster. (Leviticus 11:10)
• Eating pork. (Leviticus 11:7)
• Wearing cotton or polyester [blended] (Leviticus 19:19)
• Associating with women who are on their periods. (Leviticus 15:19-20)
• Worry. (Matthew 6:25)
• Making yourself look good. (Matthew 6:1)

There are plenty more of course. If you read it that is. It seems as if everybody wants to go to heaven but no one is never really ready to die.

So yea, especially the bottom 3; you’re all going to hell because who knows when a woman is on their period unless they tell you? Because apparently to men, we’re always bitchy; and always menstruating. You pretty much have to be a robot to not sin; a doll maybe. & I’m pretty sure there’s a sin for building such blasphemous things. So being human will pretty much send you straight to hell. Enough of that…

So, death scares you that badly that you completely forget about that heaven you believe in? You mind as well face the inevitably, it happens to all of us. There’s no way around death, so  get what you can out life on this planet because once you’re dead, it’s not going to matter. No one is going to give two fucks.